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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202021%2002%2012/near/226157327" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202021.2002.2012.html#226157327">(Feb 12 2021 at 16:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>Hey all! Meeting in 20. We'll be discussing release retro today primarily, but I also want to spend a bit of time looking at release blog post for next cycle (i.e., who will own it)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202021%2002%2012/near/226160027" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202021.2002.2012.html#226160027">(Feb 12 2021 at 16:30)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-group-mention" data-user-group-id="2907">@T-release</span> meeting!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202021%2002%2012/near/226160206" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202021.2002.2012.html#226160206">(Feb 12 2021 at 16:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>alright, <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="120823">@DPC</span> let's do a triage check in to start</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202021%2002%2012/near/226160278" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> DPC <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202021.2002.2012.html#226160278">(Feb 12 2021 at 16:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>going through the prs, closed some, looking into the others</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202021%2002%2012/near/226160407" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> DPC <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202021.2002.2012.html#226160407">(Feb 12 2021 at 16:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>i havent looked closely into the reasons behind the open prs though, guess i might have something for next week</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202021%2002%2012/near/226160486" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202021.2002.2012.html#226160486">(Feb 12 2021 at 16:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>hm I think <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="219696">@XAMPPRocky</span> is working on collecting some stats potentially, so maybe good to sync up there</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202021%2002%2012/near/226160541" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> DPC <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202021.2002.2012.html#226160541">(Feb 12 2021 at 16:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>cool</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202021%2002%2012/near/226160576" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202021.2002.2012.html#226160576">(Feb 12 2021 at 16:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>alright</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202021%2002%2012/near/226160597" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> XAMPPRocky <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202021.2002.2012.html#226160597">(Feb 12 2021 at 16:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>I haven't started on that yet, I plan to start next week, so we can discuss it.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202021%2002%2012/near/226160661" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202021.2002.2012.html#226160661">(Feb 12 2021 at 16:34)</a>:</h4>
<p>let's move on to release retro</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202021%2002%2012/near/226160692" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202021.2002.2012.html#226160692">(Feb 12 2021 at 16:34)</a>:</h4>
<p>first off I think blog post went really well</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202021%2002%2012/near/226160776" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202021.2002.2012.html#226160776">(Feb 12 2021 at 16:35)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="138448">@cuviper</span> would you say things felt good throughout the process? anything you noticed that felt unfortunate? (or others, just asking since you're author :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202021%2002%2012/near/226160804" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> XAMPPRocky <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202021.2002.2012.html#226160804">(Feb 12 2021 at 16:35)</a>:</h4>
<p>People seemed to react really well to the niche explanation.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202021%2002%2012/near/226160855" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> XAMPPRocky <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202021.2002.2012.html#226160855">(Feb 12 2021 at 16:35)</a>:</h4>
<p>Of course, now some people want to write their own niches. <span aria-label="smile" class="emoji emoji-1f642" role="img" title="smile">:smile:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202021%2002%2012/near/226160975" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> cuviper <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202021.2002.2012.html#226160975">(Feb 12 2021 at 16:36)</a>:</h4>
<p>Yeah, I think it went well. It helped to have a lot of time to work on feedback.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202021%2002%2012/near/226161036" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> cuviper <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202021.2002.2012.html#226161036">(Feb 12 2021 at 16:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>I wasn't sure how much to explain about stuff like the niche, so I'm glad that was well received</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202021%2002%2012/near/226161043" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202021.2002.2012.html#226161043">(Feb 12 2021 at 16:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>ok - do you feel like you could commit to doing it again this time around?</p>



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<p>(on a similarish timeline)</p>



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<p>Maybe, if no one else is interested.</p>



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<p>I kind of intended that we would be spreading this responsibility around more. Maybe even get Steve back on it sometimes.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202021%2002%2012/near/226161278" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> cuviper <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202021.2002.2012.html#226161278">(Feb 12 2021 at 16:38)</a>:</h4>
<p><span aria-label="smile" class="emoji emoji-1f642" role="img" title="smile">:smile:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202021%2002%2012/near/226161370" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> XAMPPRocky <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202021.2002.2012.html#226161370">(Feb 12 2021 at 16:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>I wouldn't doing it, I would have the time, but I also wouldn't mind not doing it. <span aria-label="smile" class="emoji emoji-1f642" role="img" title="smile">:smile:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202021%2002%2012/near/226161392" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> cuviper <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202021.2002.2012.html#226161392">(Feb 12 2021 at 16:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>Heh</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202021%2002%2012/near/226161467" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> cuviper <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202021.2002.2012.html#226161467">(Feb 12 2021 at 16:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>1.51 is bigger for const generics</p>



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<p>Ok, let's maybe try <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="219696">@XAMPPRocky</span> doing it this time, but we can also sync up in a week or two on the details</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202021%2002%2012/near/226161518" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202021.2002.2012.html#226161518">(Feb 12 2021 at 16:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>alright, I did want to note a pain point</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202021%2002%2012/near/226161574" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202021.2002.2012.html#226161574">(Feb 12 2021 at 16:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>we don't have master promoted and the beta came out later than usual, primarily because of unknown to (at least) me tool breakage I think</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202021%2002%2012/near/226161593" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202021.2002.2012.html#226161593">(Feb 12 2021 at 16:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>this tells me that toolstate is probably not being checked or tracked well enough before release week</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202021%2002%2012/near/226161701" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> XAMPPRocky <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202021.2002.2012.html#226161701">(Feb 12 2021 at 16:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>I did also see one person complain that it wasn't available in Docker at the time of release, but I'm not sure what we can do about that.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202021%2002%2012/near/226161724" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> cuviper <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202021.2002.2012.html#226161724">(Feb 12 2021 at 16:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>That's supposed to be a "no breakage" week, right? Is there any tooling for that?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202021%2002%2012/near/226161812" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202021.2002.2012.html#226161812">(Feb 12 2021 at 16:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>there is, but we only don't permit <em>new</em> breakage</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202021%2002%2012/near/226161853" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202021.2002.2012.html#226161853">(Feb 12 2021 at 16:43)</a>:</h4>
<p>and I think on aarch64 msvc rls has just been broken for 2 months or something now</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202021%2002%2012/near/226161876" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202021.2002.2012.html#226161876">(Feb 12 2021 at 16:43)</a>:</h4>
<p>(or tests don't pass anyway)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202021%2002%2012/near/226161898" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Joshua Nelson <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202021.2002.2012.html#226161898">(Feb 12 2021 at 16:43)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="219696">XAMPPRocky</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202021.2002.2012/near/226161701">said</a>:</p>
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<p>I did also see one person complain that it wasn't available in Docker at the time of release, but I'm not sure what we can do about that.</p>
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<p>this expectation seems a little unrealistic to me - do they really need the new docker image <em>within 24 hours</em> of the release?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202021%2002%2012/near/226161939" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> cuviper <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202021.2002.2012.html#226161939">(Feb 12 2021 at 16:43)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think they have some fundamental tokio issue in rls, needing a big upgrade</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202021%2002%2012/near/226161945" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202021.2002.2012.html#226161945">(Feb 12 2021 at 16:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>we don't maintain those docker images to my knowledge so it's not on us</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202021%2002%2012/near/226162021" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202021.2002.2012.html#226162021">(Feb 12 2021 at 16:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>so I'm planning to add an action item on the monday of the week before release to check toolstate across the board, so we at least know</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202021%2002%2012/near/226162051" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> XAMPPRocky <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202021.2002.2012.html#226162051">(Feb 12 2021 at 16:44)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116122">simulacrum</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202021.2002.2012/near/226161945">said</a>:</p>
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<p>we don't maintain those docker images to my knowledge so it's not on us</p>
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<p>Yeah, that's what I was wondering.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202021%2002%2012/near/226162092" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> cuviper <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202021.2002.2012.html#226162092">(Feb 12 2021 at 16:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>Who does?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202021%2002%2012/near/226162123" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202021.2002.2012.html#226162123">(Feb 12 2021 at 16:45)</a>:</h4>
<p>I <em>think</em> sfackler? Not sure.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202021%2002%2012/near/226162182" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> XAMPPRocky <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202021.2002.2012.html#226162182">(Feb 12 2021 at 16:45)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="232545">Joshua Nelson</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202021.2002.2012/near/226161898">said</a>:</p>
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<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="219696">XAMPPRocky</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202021.2002.2012/near/226161701">said</a>:</p>
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<p>I did also see one person complain that it wasn't available in Docker at the time of release, but I'm not sure what we can do about that.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>this expectation seems a little unrealistic to me - do they really need the new docker image <em>within 24 hours</em> of the release?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>If it was controlled by us, I think it's a somewhat reasonable expectation, but it's not so.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202021%2002%2012/near/226162188" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202021.2002.2012.html#226162188">(Feb 12 2021 at 16:45)</a>:</h4>
<p>oh hm maybe they are semi-official <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/docker-rust">https://github.com/rust-lang/docker-rust</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202021%2002%2012/near/226162323" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> cuviper <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202021.2002.2012.html#226162323">(Feb 12 2021 at 16:46)</a>:</h4>
<p>But yes, almost solely sfackler</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202021%2002%2012/near/226162326" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jonas Schievink  [he/him] <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202021.2002.2012.html#226162326">(Feb 12 2021 at 16:46)</a>:</h4>
<p>they are "official", but not part of the release flow</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202021%2002%2012/near/226162329" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202021.2002.2012.html#226162329">(Feb 12 2021 at 16:46)</a>:</h4>
<p>I can note down speaking to sfackler to figure out what the update process is, maybe we can include it in release process or figure out a way to synchronize</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202021%2002%2012/near/226162360" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202021.2002.2012.html#226162360">(Feb 12 2021 at 16:46)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'd personally rather not include in release process</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202021%2002%2012/near/226162499" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202021.2002.2012.html#226162499">(Feb 12 2021 at 16:47)</a>:</h4>
<p>ok great, that's all I had I think, let's <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="261224">@triagebot</span> end-topic</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202021%2002%2012/near/226162500" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> triagebot <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202021.2002.2012.html#226162500">(Feb 12 2021 at 16:47)</a>:</h4>
<p>Does anyone have something to add on the current topic?<br>
React with <span aria-label="working on it" class="emoji emoji-1f6e0" role="img" title="working on it">:working_on_it:</span> if you have something to say.<br>
React with <span aria-label="all good" class="emoji emoji-2705" role="img" title="all good">:all_good:</span> if not.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202021%2002%2012/near/226162827" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202021.2002.2012.html#226162827">(Feb 12 2021 at 16:49)</a>:</h4>
<p>ok</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202021%2002%2012/near/226162892" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202021.2002.2012.html#226162892">(Feb 12 2021 at 16:50)</a>:</h4>
<p>that's all from me for the meeting as well, so <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="261224">@triagebot</span> end-meeting</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202021%2002%2012/near/226162895" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> triagebot <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202021.2002.2012.html#226162895">(Feb 12 2021 at 16:50)</a>:</h4>
<p>Does anyone have something to bring up?<br>
React with <span aria-label="working on it" class="emoji emoji-1f6e0" role="img" title="working on it">:working_on_it:</span> if you have something to say.<br>
React with <span aria-label="all good" class="emoji emoji-2705" role="img" title="all good">:all_good:</span> if you're ready to end the meeting.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202021%2002%2012/near/226163036" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202021.2002.2012.html#226163036">(Feb 12 2021 at 16:51)</a>:</h4>
<p>okay - thanks all! o/</p>



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